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Tuesday, January 6, 2009

Homosexuality is a Sin

This is the proverbial "white elephant in the room" which I have noticed that most people, whether Christians or not, make a conscious and deliberate decision to ignore in their debates regarding Rev. Rick Warren, California's "Proposition 8", gay marriage... or the wider issue of Christianity and gay rights. The fact is that whether or not you believe in the christian concept of God and/or that the Bible is His word, it clearly states, in both the Old and New Testament that homosexuality is a sin. It is not important to this post to list any or all the verses that supports this position, for this is not about the condemnation of homosexuals. It is however important to point out that although God hates sin... all sin... he loves sinners... all sinners.

We... the followers of Christ... therefore need to be very careful and mindful in how we relate to "sinners". First we need to remember as Paul wrote in Romans 3:22-24: "For there is no difference, for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus." Paul also reminds us in Romans 5:20: "God’s law was given so that all people could see how sinful they were. But as people sinned more and more, God’s wonderful grace became more abundant." Jesus showed us in John 8, an example of this grace and mercy that is a life lesson for us today:

Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, They say unto him, "Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?" This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her." And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, "Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?" She said, "No man, Lord." And Jesus said unto her, "Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."

It is important to notice that although Christ did not condemn her, he also did not condone her behaviour. He admonished her at the end to "go, and sin no more". The pastor at the church I attend has stated on a number of occasions that homosexuals should feel welcome and comfortable enough to attend our church, because we are not here to condemn them, although we don't condone their life choice (of-course, which leads to the debate of whether it is a "choice" or not). Regardless, the point is that we need to be "Christ-like" in our relationships with each other.

This is why I have some issue with Rev. Warren's position on homosexuality and gay marriage, although I do agree that marriage is defined as a union between "a man and a woman". Although Rev. Warren stated that he regretted comparing homosexuality to pedophilia and incest in his video message to his congregation regarding Proposition 8, he did some irrefutable and irreparable damage to both the christian and gay community by making that comparison. But more troubling is the accusation made in this article by AMERICAblog News, that on a Saddleback Church website, it states that unrepentant homosexuals would not be accepted as a members of the church. I did do a search of the website myself but could not find the page with that statement, although it does appear that the link to the it was removed for public viewing. If this is Rev. Warren's current position and the policy of his church, it is certainly does not follow the teachings or example of Christ. Throughout the Gospels it is recorded where Jesus always welcomed and never turned away those who came to fellowship with him and hear his teachings, while he severely criticized the religious establishment for their lack of compassion, judgemental attitude and exclusionary practices, which they based on their erroneous interpretation of the word of God.

And it came to pass as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with Him and His disciples. And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto His disciples, "Why eateth your master with publicans and sinners?" But when Jesus heard that, He said unto them, "They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick. But go ye and learn what this meaneth: I will have mercy and not sacrifice. For I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Matthew 9:10-13.

Blessings!

8 comments:

  1. The title of your post didn't seem to match the wonderful message inside. I was curious about your selection, because, I am particularly fascinated by people who single-out homosexuality (and homosexuals like the worst sin (and the worst sinners) on the planet. I know you didn't do that here, but your title led me to believe you were gonna do the same.

    You may need to eventually give those biblical references (for homosexuality) that you left out. I hear there's a debate going on that biblical text doesn't support the "homosexuality is sin" theory. I'm gonna make my way over there to see what all the hoopla is about (if I can find my way back). LOL

    Hawa, author of Fackin Truth Blog
    And Cleanse Master Remix

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  2. Hi Hawa,

    I purposely chose the title to demonstrate that because someone may hold a certain belief, it may not follow that they fit into a particular box or way of thinking. I find that people are indeed a paradox, being both more complex and more simple in their beliefs than we assume. If we are able to suspend our prejudices and ego for a moment, not be so quick to judge and take the time to at least listen to what others have to say, we may be actually find as you state: "a wonderful message inside". I know... I am a dreamer! LOL!

    In regards to the Bible passages which state that homosexuality is a sin, these 6... known as the "clobber passages"... are the ones more commonly referenced: Genesis 19:5; Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9; and 1 Timothy 1:9-10.

    Here are a couple of links which support and refute the issue of whether homosexuality is a sin.

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  3. Thank you for this message... I've never quite understood how someone who claims to be a child of God and a disciple of Christ, behaving in what they have determined to be a "Christ like" manner, finds it so easy to CONDEMN another human being.

    I suppose the notion of "sin" only fits those withouse mirrors to gaze into...

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  4. This was an intriguing post.

    I'm still not sure where I sit on the concept of Christianity and homosexuality.

    I am a Catholic and that part of my faith is extremely important to me but I do struggle with the churches stance on homosexuality because it does condemn it.

    The reason I am uncomfortable is that it separates us from our homosexual brothers and sisters.

    Is it really possible to 'pick and choose'?

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  5. Absolutely right. Our homosexual friends should feel comfortable coming to church and finding the glory of Christ, as much as anyone. In fact, their sexuality shouldn't even enter into it.

    Let's look at "homosexuality as sin." The primary sources for this belief are the two mistranslated verses from Leviticus, 18:22 and 20:13 (two of what you call the "clobber passages").

    If you go back to the source material, in Ancient Hebrew, you'll find that the verb used on the "mankind" side of the equation is shakab, and the one used for "womankind" is mishkab. And shakab, in its sexual sense, is used when you are talking about forcible sex (such as, say, rape), or any sex against the will of the victim.

    For example, shakab is also the word used in Genesis 34:2, when Shechem defiles Hamor the Hivite; and in 2 Samuel 13:14 - "...but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her." And in Isaiah 13:16 - "Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished." It's even used in Exodus 22:19, "Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death."

    There are references to consensual sex in the Bible, but none of them, if you look at the source material (before the translation errors crept in) use the word shakab. So the correct translation of the passages from Leviticus is an exhortation against homosexual rape: "Thou shalt not force sexual congress on a man, as (or instead of) with a woman."

    Personally, I prefer the Word of God over the Mistranslation of God. Simply because you happen to disapprove of homosexuality, you shouldn't push your own prejudices as the teachings of the Lord.

    "But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men." (Matthew 15:9).

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  6. As a Bible-believing Protestant Christian, I dismiss Nameless Cynic's argument that the passages in Leviticus do not mean what they say, and I look also at St. Paul's remarks in Romans Ch. 1. The key to me regarding the approach that the church should take towards a sexually-challenged individual is that you are welcome to come to learn, converse, and to worship with us. However, un-repentance is a barrier. Yes, we are all sinners together, but I have no patience if you want to contend that a sin is not a sin. Please come to worship; I hope we can be patient and welcoming. However, do not expect to join as a member, until you can come to repentance and seek to work out your own way of avoiding the sins that tempt you. If you want assistance in that effort, we are willing to help, and hopeful that you can come away from a lifestyle that is self-destructive.

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  7. Havent you noticed that ALL HOMOSEXUALS identify themselves as SEXUAL BEINGS WITH THE RIGHT TO FLAUNT THEIR PERVERSIONS. I also notice they talk about gay culture. Homosexuality is not a CULTURAL IDENTITY. Since when has the homosexual identity become a culture? CULTURE inloves ethnic bakground, national indentity, and TRADITION. What the hell is GAY PRIDE?!?! More like DEGENERATE PRIDE....

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  8. @Julialikeiam1

    We identify as a culture because we are treated like one. The very people that condemn us as sinners and evil-doers are the ones to blame for us to be labelled as a culture. By segregation and a lack of tolerance, they have created a need for us to identify with each other. They are to blame...oh and gay pride is just to stick the finger up at them and say we aren't going to put up with their shit.

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